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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166353770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166353770">(May 23 2019 at 12:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll be doing pre-triage in this channel.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166354569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166354569">(May 23 2019 at 12:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>first prepass: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+label%3AI-nominated" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3AT-compiler+-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+label%3AI-nominated">unprioritized nominated T-compiler</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166354597" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166354597">(May 23 2019 at 12:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>first: "[LLVM] Segmentation fault on MacOS with &gt; 1 codegen units and optimization &gt; 0" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60925" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60925">#60925</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166354959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166354959">(May 23 2019 at 12:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is tough. It is such a nasty bug</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355001" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355001">(May 23 2019 at 12:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>but if it is indeed an <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53912#issuecomment-417980358" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53912#issuecomment-417980358">LLVM bug</a> when handed symbol names with <code>.llvm.</code> in them ... then it seems easy to work around.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355521">(May 23 2019 at 12:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to make this P-high, but only to resolve, as a team, how best to resolve this in <strong>very short term</strong>. I'm talking like, "do we add a lint for instances of using <code>llvm</code> as an identifier, warning about potential for hitting this."</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355591">(May 23 2019 at 12:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "Borrow checker on beta rejects code accepted on stable." <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60927" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60927">#60927</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355678">(May 23 2019 at 12:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think we're going to try to "fix" this regression; I believe its being lumped in as acceptable fallout from a soundness fix.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355699" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355699">(May 23 2019 at 12:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to close this bug, but I'll also include a note about it on our main topic so everyone's aware</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355707" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355707">(May 23 2019 at 12:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I forgot to think about it for the blog post</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355709">(May 23 2019 at 12:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I guess I shouldn't close it until the blog post for the release is done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355711">(May 23 2019 at 12:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks for the reminder</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355723" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355723">(May 23 2019 at 12:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> not sure if I should add something or not -- do we believe it is noteworthy?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355795">(May 23 2019 at 12:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>if so I need to do this really quickly cause it's release day today</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355826">(May 23 2019 at 12:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am under the impression that the diagnostic does not give one much of a hint as to where the problem originates</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355829">(May 23 2019 at 12:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>and because I'm about to start the release process <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355849" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355849">(May 23 2019 at 12:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>(hi!)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355867">(May 23 2019 at 12:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess my question is: do we think it will affect many users?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355873">(May 23 2019 at 12:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>otherwise it's not blog post noteworthy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355944">(May 23 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would be good to have a "known breakage" section either in the relnotes or the blog post for each release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355971">(May 23 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>would prefer relnotes in that case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166355976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166355976">(May 23 2019 at 12:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>but that's more of a t-release thingy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356244" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356244">(May 23 2019 at 12:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think this is blog post worthy</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356253" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356253">(May 23 2019 at 12:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>release notes seems fine to me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356257" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356257">(May 23 2019 at 12:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> yeah I agree <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356344" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356344">(May 23 2019 at 12:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> I'm going to remove the I-nominated tag (because I don't think we need to dedicate time to discussing <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60927" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60927">#60927</a> during the triage meeting), but I will not close it unless you want to e.g. find some other way to track the work remaining regarding messaging.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356503">(May 23 2019 at 12:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE with incorrect turbofish" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989">#60989</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356595">(May 23 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm. bisected to a rollup of 37 PRs.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356602">(May 23 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>fun :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356603">(May 23 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> , would it make any sense to limit the number of PRs in a rollup?</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> only if you make infra give us more machines for bors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356625">(May 23 2019 at 12:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>(that, or invest time in CI infrastructure to provide e.g. prebuilt binaries of intermediate points within a rollup PR)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356653" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356653">(May 23 2019 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>more machines for bors won't help that much btw</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356672">(May 23 2019 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>unless we get double or triple the number of builders to run builds in parallel</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356674" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356674">(May 23 2019 at 12:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> 37 PR rollups are rare and only happen when we have CI problems or if I have been on vacation or something</p>



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<blockquote>
<p>unless we get double or triple the number of builders to run builds in parallel</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, that =P -- we should have that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356731">(May 23 2019 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>and at least with the current setup that's <em>expensive</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356745">(May 23 2019 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>but if they're rare, then there wouldn't be much cost to saying "only 10 PR's per rollup", right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356755" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356755">(May 23 2019 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>because it would "just" quadruple the latency?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356765">(May 23 2019 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(in those rare cases)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356770">(May 23 2019 at 12:44)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span>  sometimes it is needed so I don't want any limits</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356780">(May 23 2019 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>sometimes you have a bunch of trivial PRs and you get 10 PRs easily</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356790" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356790">(May 23 2019 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356794" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356794">(May 23 2019 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>over 10 PRs is common</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356820" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356820">(May 23 2019 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>all I'm saying is that there is a pretty serious difference between trying to evaluate a 10 PR rollup in terms of trying to identify culprits post bisection</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356823" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356823">(May 23 2019 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>vs evaluating a 37 PR rollup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356893" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356893">(May 23 2019 at 12:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356906">(May 23 2019 at 12:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> well yeah, you shouldn't put anything into a rollup -- we have a new system for that: <code>@bors r+ rollup=never</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356916" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356916">(May 23 2019 at 12:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>this tells me that you don't want the PR in a rollup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356939">(May 23 2019 at 12:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I've digressed from the main issue, which is how to prioritize <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989">#60989</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166356965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166356965">(May 23 2019 at 12:47)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="126931">@centril</span> you've added rollup=never because not enough people were utilizing <code>@bors rollup</code> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357031" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357031">(May 23 2019 at 12:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>(anyway I don't see how rollup=never addresses the point I was making about trying to do detective work on a 10 PR rollup vs a 37 PR rollup)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357053" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357053">(May 23 2019 at 12:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span>  no; <code>rollup=never</code> is for big PRs, changes to bootstrap, rustbuild, perf sensitive stuff, etc.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357077">(May 23 2019 at 12:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I rollup non-<code>@bors rollup</code> PRs all the time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357080">(May 23 2019 at 12:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>wait a minute</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357099">(May 23 2019 at 12:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>is <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989">#60989</a> talking about a bug that affects the stable that is about to be released?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357177">(May 23 2019 at 12:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> ^----</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357185" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357185">(May 23 2019 at 12:50)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I rollup non-<code>@bors rollup</code> PRs all the time</p>
</blockquote>
<p>and I'm saying: Is this sufficiently motivated</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357201">(May 23 2019 at 12:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>wait what</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357202">(May 23 2019 at 12:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>blargh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357238" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357238">(May 23 2019 at 12:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me check</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357240" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357240">(May 23 2019 at 12:51)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>and I'm saying: Is this sufficiently motivated</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes. Otherwise the number of PRs will accelerate and so will bors wait times</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357253" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357253">(May 23 2019 at 12:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>fuck</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357335">(May 23 2019 at 12:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> the best way to avoid big rollups that are hard to bisect is to just do more rollups more frequently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357340" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357340">(May 23 2019 at 12:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes it affects the 1.35.0 which is about to be released</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357348" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357348">(May 23 2019 at 12:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>other than that, it's the infra team's problem to fix the situation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357350" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357350">(May 23 2019 at 12:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I didn't start the process yet though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357351">(May 23 2019 at 12:52)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> the best way to avoid big rollups that are hard to bisect is to just do more rollups more frequently</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Otherwise known as: Put an upper bound on the number of PRs in a rollup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357397" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357397">(May 23 2019 at 12:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's an artificial measure; I know better what to put in a rollup and what not to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357409" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357409">(May 23 2019 at 12:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I do rollups really frequently these days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357421">(May 23 2019 at 12:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>like... sometimes even 3 per day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357434" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357434">(May 23 2019 at 12:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, but then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357489" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357489">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>break that 37 PR rollup into 4?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357492" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357492">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>37 is an extreme outlier due to an infra problem for a few days... it is not representative of normal operations</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357502" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357502">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I really am just having difficulty understanding the objection</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357503">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>can we have this discussion later?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357512" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357512">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it might have been due to 259 problems</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357519" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357519">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>how bad is that regression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357525">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah lets not talk about the rollup question right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357532" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357532">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(we can put that in a separate topic)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357547">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm trying to figure out the impact of that regression, and whether it should make us delay the release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357548">(May 23 2019 at 12:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>it seems like the code was erroring anyway and this is an error -&gt; ICE</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357572" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357572">(May 23 2019 at 12:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have to imagine it would be relatively easy to identify the cause</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357664" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357664">(May 23 2019 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>but as <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> notes, an error -&gt; ICE is itself not as high-priority (right?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357684" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357684">(May 23 2019 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>depends on how frequent the error occurs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357685">(May 23 2019 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, we're not breaking any code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357698">(May 23 2019 at 12:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>of course  its really painful for the person seeing the diagnostic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357704">(May 23 2019 at 12:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>if it regresses diagnostics experience substantially it should be a blocker</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357706" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357706">(May 23 2019 at 12:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>how about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357707" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357707">(May 23 2019 at 12:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's a bad UX but I'm not sure if it's <em>that</em> bad to delay the release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357710" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357710">(May 23 2019 at 12:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll leave it nominated</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357720" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357720">(May 23 2019 at 12:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>and triage it as P-high</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357737">(May 23 2019 at 12:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>let compiler team weigh in on whether its worth delaying the release or not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357739">(May 23 2019 at 12:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe stable nominate also for the fix PR?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357804">(May 23 2019 at 12:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we have a patch done in max a few hours we could do a stable rebuild and still be in time for releasing today</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357816" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357816">(May 23 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> are you going to be around for the compiler meeting itself? Would you be able to weigh in on questions about e.g. "if we have a beta-backportable fix in two days, how long would that delay release to incorporate it"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357828" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357828">(May 23 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357830">(May 23 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>or I'm guessing its more like "we would not redo a beta promotion"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357844">(May 23 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and we would instead stable-backport to the current beta-promotion)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357854" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357854">(May 23 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>or maybe there's no effective difference between those two...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357863" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357863">(May 23 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, lets maybe just wait to have this conversation with the rest of the compiler team then.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357868" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357868">(May 23 2019 at 12:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>honestly if y'all can manage to r+ a PR against stable in a few hours we can still make it for today</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357918" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357918">(May 23 2019 at 13:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>triage <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989">#60989</a>: P-high. Leaving I-nominated.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357936">(May 23 2019 at 13:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I'm not going to have anything ready in "a few hours" myself.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166357947" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166357947">(May 23 2019 at 13:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>especially if each pre-triage item continues to take this much time.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358006" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358006">(May 23 2019 at 13:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>It does seem like bugs tagged with regression-from-stable-to-beta during the last week before a release should probably get some sort of eager treatment</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358061" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358061">(May 23 2019 at 13:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. maybe I and other compiler team members should be scanning for such bugs each day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358077" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358077">(May 23 2019 at 13:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>and ping release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358171" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358171">(May 23 2019 at 13:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "<code>rls</code> no longer builds after rust-lang/rust#61027" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61031" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61031">#61031</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358535">(May 23 2019 at 13:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think this is P-high</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358665">(May 23 2019 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Who maintains the toolstate checker that rust-highfive reports?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358679">(May 23 2019 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>infra/kenny</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358680">(May 23 2019 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm wondering whether we could be providing links to the build logs that show the failures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166358703" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166358703">(May 23 2019 at 13:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay I'll go ask in Discord</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359167">(May 23 2019 at 13:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, triage <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61031" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61031">#61031</a>: P-medium, removing I-nominated. Assigned to self to track, but also leaving assigned to Xanewok and Centril.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359227" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359227">(May 23 2019 at 13:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>its also possible that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61031" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61031">#61031</a> was in fact fixed, given that toolstate reported that rls broke again in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61071" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61071">#61071</a>.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359614" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359614">(May 23 2019 at 13:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>next: "ICE with lifetime'd associated type on stable" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61064" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61064">#61064</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359665" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359665">(May 23 2019 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay this is a well known problem</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359679">(May 23 2019 at 13:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think I'm going to assign it to myself because I'm tired of seeing issues filed about it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359742" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359742">(May 23 2019 at 13:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe I shouldn't say "well known"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359764">(May 23 2019 at 13:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thought there was some other issue where someone pointed out that we were ICE'ing after reporting the error due to the unstable feature</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166359770" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166359770">(May 23 2019 at 13:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>but none of the linked issues seem to be pointing that out</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166360180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166360180">(May 23 2019 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway: triage <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61064" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61064">#61064</a>: P-medium. Removing I-nominated. Closing as dupe of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60654" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60654">#60654</a>. Assigning <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60654" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60654">#60654</a> to self.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166360765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166360765">(May 23 2019 at 13:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>last: "<code>rls</code> no longer builds after rust-lang/rust#60740" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61071" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61071">#61071</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166360855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166360855">(May 23 2019 at 13:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>this seems to be well in hand thanks to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="197894">@Philipp Hansch</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166360878" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166360878">(May 23 2019 at 13:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>triage <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61071" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/61071">#61071</a>: P-medium, removing nominated label.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361386" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361386">(May 23 2019 at 13:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>next prepass: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low++label%3AI-nominated+-label%3AT-compiler+-label%3AT-libs+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc++-label%3AT-lang" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low++label%3AI-nominated+-label%3AT-compiler+-label%3AT-libs+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc++-label%3AT-lang">nominated issues  not tagged with T-compiler</a> but may nonetheless be relevant to use</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361425" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361425">(May 23 2019 at 13:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the list here may need to be updated to include -label:T-release)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361447" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361447">(May 23 2019 at 13:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's a bit relevant for the compiler team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361466" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361466">(May 23 2019 at 13:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>and maybe <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60459" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60459">#60459</a> is too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361488">(May 23 2019 at 13:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361513" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361513">(May 23 2019 at 13:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>how important is this? Feels P-medium to me.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361580">(May 23 2019 at 13:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>but <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60459" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60459">#60459</a> might warrant P-high ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361619" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361619">(May 23 2019 at 13:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>with a t-release hat I'd like that check to be in place again asap</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361645">(May 23 2019 at 13:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh dear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361661">(May 23 2019 at 13:45)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60459" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60459">#60459</a> is a beta-regression too ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361669">(May 23 2019 at 13:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>which means it also might be part of the pending release?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361745">(May 23 2019 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>no</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361763">(May 23 2019 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's a beta-1.36-regression, not a beta-1.35-soon-to-be-stable-regression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361780" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361780">(May 23 2019 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361795">(May 23 2019 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>what is the beta on the playpen?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361799">(May 23 2019 at 13:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>1.36</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361836" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361836">(May 23 2019 at 13:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also checked locally with the pre-release and it errors fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361889" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361889">(May 23 2019 at 13:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>So ... do we release the result of the nightly-&gt;beta rollover <em>before</em> the stable resulting from the beta-&gt;stable rollover?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361925">(May 23 2019 at 13:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm mostly trying to figure out if I can use the playpen as a way to roughly observe the pending release behavior</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166361997" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166361997">(May 23 2019 at 13:49)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>I also checked locally with the pre-release and it errors fine</p>
</blockquote>
<p>okay, thank you for checking this.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362115">(May 23 2019 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>monday: beta-&gt;stable, and that is released as the pre-release on dev-static<br>
tuesday: master-&gt;beta, and that is released as the new beta on static (prod)<br>
thursday: the pre-release is moved to static (prod)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362119">(May 23 2019 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>so yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362133" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362133">(May 23 2019 at 13:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>i see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362220" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362220">(May 23 2019 at 13:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>what's the motivation for doing master-&gt;beta and beta =&gt; static before pre-release =&gt; static ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362314" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362314">(May 23 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>in particular, I would think the methodology of referencing <code>play.rust-lang.org</code> to predict forthcoming results is ... worthwhile?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362333">(May 23 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>dunno, that process was made before I joined the project</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362338" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362338">(May 23 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362352">(May 23 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>probably not to have beta being released on a friday?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362365" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362365">(May 23 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362375">(May 23 2019 at 13:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362381" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362381">(May 23 2019 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>still, seems slightly unfortunate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362399" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362399">(May 23 2019 at 13:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I won't dwell on that at the moment</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362455" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362455">(May 23 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(the other, maybe silly question, is whether there's a way to ask play.r-l.o "what versions do you have deployed")</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362512" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362512">(May 23 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>(because I know there's  been <em>lots</em> of times that I've wanted to know "the truth" there)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362514" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362514">(May 23 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's shown in the dropdown</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362522">(May 23 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh of course</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362547">(May 23 2019 at 13:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>totally unrelated, I bisected the error-&gt;ICE regression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362557">(May 23 2019 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989#issuecomment-495228473" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989#issuecomment-495228473">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60989#issuecomment-495228473</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362578" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362578">(May 23 2019 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah okay. so looking at that, one can clearly see that right now, stable is 1.34.2 and beta is 1.36.0-beta.1; and thus 1.35 behavior is not currently observable via play</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362607" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362607">(May 23 2019 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362617" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362617">(May 23 2019 at 13:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>shoot, that PR is <em>also</em> fixing an ICE</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362682" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362682">(May 23 2019 at 13:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>but maybe will help point to a targetted fix</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362737">(May 23 2019 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362768">(May 23 2019 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>regarding <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60929" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60929">#60929</a>, based on <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> (w/ T-release  hat)'s comments, I'll make it P-high and assign to self.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362941" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362941">(May 23 2019 at 13:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>next prepass: <em>zero</em> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-beta++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-libs+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-beta++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-libs+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc">unprioritized beta regressions</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166362998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166362998">(May 23 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>next prepass: one <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-nightly++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&amp;q=is%3Aopen+label%3Aregression-from-stable-to-nightly++-label%3AP-high++-label%3AP-medium+-label%3AP-low+-label%3AT-infra+-label%3AT-rustdoc">unprioritized nightly regression</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166363037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166363037">(May 23 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>namely  "String::as_ref() Into&lt;String&gt; doesn't compile on nightly" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60958" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/60958">#60958</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166363048" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166363048">(May 23 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>but this is libs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166363052" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166363052">(May 23 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>and already deemed acceptable breakage</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting%20triage%202019-05-23%20%2354818/near/166363057" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/pre-meeting.20triage.202019-05-23.20.2354818.html#166363057">(May 23 2019 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>so not our problem</p>



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